Far Cough
1:15 Sat Jun 11
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5 riders have died in this year's TT
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Northern Sold
1:12 Sat Jun 11
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Sport and past times can be and always have been dangerous...everytime you tie up your football boots there is a chance you could break your leg... everytime you put on a scrum cap there is a chance that you could end up paralysed from the neck downwards... everytime you pick up a ice pick you might slip and fall 10000 feet and end up in a pool of jelly... everytime you stick on a riding hat there is a chance that your beloved horse will buck you off and trample you to death... sport... past times... and life is a risk... it's about putting those odds in your favour.... I reckon the majority of sports now it's as safe as you can get with the protocols so you either get on with it or ban it for life... I have not got a clue regarding riding around country roads at 300mph or whatever they are doing comes under that bracket.
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Far Cough
12:58 Sat Jun 11
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Plenty of spectators and riders have died in the past, so what makes you think they are going to cancel it now, when it brings in lots of tourist money to the island?
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,
12:12 Sat Jun 11
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Volenti non fit injuria means that the sentient individual accepts the risks. As an aside it is why comparing the death of a racehorse to a motorcycle racer is risible.
If there had never been such a thing as the IoM TTs and someone put it to the Tynwald today it would likely be rejected out of hand or run on a custom made course that would make it unrecognisable to modern spectators.
Sadly it has become an anachronism staged as it is and it is obvious that it’s days are numbered. If there is an incident which cause spectator as well as racer fatalities the end will be sooner rather than later.
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Far Cough
11:46 Sat Jun 11
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TT = Titanium Testicles
FACT
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ak37
11:27 Sat Jun 11
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If there was 5 migrants killed in one weekend there would be absolute hysteria.
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Willtell
11:09 Sat Jun 11
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The TT is a unique event with massively historic roots. It started in 1907 (iirc) when motorised transport was in the early stages of development. The roads of the day included non-tarmac surfaces and speeds were relatively low.
The UK parliament stopped any roads being closed for speed events so some bright spark took the event to the IOM which isn't governed by UK law.
Now we have road motor cycles capable of over 200mph and the circuit is really unsuitable as large parts of it's near 38 miles are either flat out or close to flat out.
Five deaths or not, the IOM spends £millions encouraging the event for the good of the IOM economy. The truth is that the event should either be closed down for good or money spent to put in chicanes or tight bends to reduce speeds. Sooner or later the IOM gvt. will have a bitter pill to swallow
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legrandefromage
4:16 Sat Jun 11
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Crashes are the only exciting part of motor sport. Deaths are merely collateral damage.
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gph
12:30 Sat Jun 11
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I'm confused. Deaths in TT?
How do they play table tennis in the IoM?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
11:56 Fri Jun 10
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The details of this may be wrong but the gist of the story is correct.
Back in the seventies, before practice, the winner of the previous year's Senior TT and the Heavyweight Sidecar events would be invited to walk the course and advise on the placement of straw bales. One year, Ago. (I think) and Klaus Enders (I'm a bit more sure) were walking the course. The problem was, lots of the corners that Ago wanted to place extra bales, Enders had to veto on the basis that there was no room for his passenger's head.
Mental.
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joe royal
10:13 Fri Jun 10
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Apparently more people get killed on the Scottish mountains every year then the TT.
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chim chim cha boo
10:03 Fri Jun 10
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Wow, five deaths this year and they've not even run the senior TT yet.
That's high, even for the TT.
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11MDE
8:44 Fri Jun 10
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Another two sidecar deaths today. Father and son.
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Bungo
1:40 Fri Jun 10
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Friend of mine used to race Superbikes.
His view was that if you fell off on a actual race circuit, you generally slid across the tarmac/gravel until you lost momentum. On the Isle of Man you would generally hit something hard long before you had slowed down enough. Not a good plan really.
He never raced there and is still alive.
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11MDE
1:32 Fri Jun 10
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We used to go over there a lot in the 1970's as my Dad did the TT in 1975. He was the passanger on a sidecar outfit. Can't remember too much as I was young, but now I'm almost relieved the bike broke down. I much prefered him doing to the Brands, Snetterton and all those in the British Championship. This week has shown the best and worst of the races.
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Willtell
10:52 Fri Jun 10
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If there is one subject I am an expert on it's motor cycle racing. Been a fan since my teenage years. I still have 2 powerful bikes in the garage for distant travelling to continental races and rallies with my like minded pals.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:20 Thu Jun 9
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Harsh Willtell.
I used Wiki to check the exact year and the three riders' exact number of wins. That's what it's there for isn't it? I feel no shame.
My motivation was to provide some context and stimulation to the Ago and Hailwood discussion based on something I already knew.
I seem to have succeeded, hence your excellent post.
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Willtell
10:38 Thu Jun 9
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Wikipedia is your friend Surface.
Yes it was dropped from the world championships because continental riders claimed it was not only very dangerous but unfair on them. It took at least 3 years for even the best riders to learn how to go really fast around the 37&3/4 mile road circuit.
In those days there was little start money for world championship riders that would finish behind slower British riders that knew the circuit well. And of course it was very expensive to get there from mainland Europe and stay there for at least 2 weeks of practice and racing.
Since those days the IOM has put £millions into the event to extend the tourists holiday season by holding the event in early June and filling B&B's and hotels with the thousands of fans that flock there annually.
And the money is why riders like 50 years old John McGuiness still compete. They get huge amounts of sponsorship and prize money from the IOM for doing the event.
There was doom about the event losing its WC status back in the 70's. I'd say the event is now more famous than ever from its unique mix of danger and racing on public roads and through towns and villages has made it world famous.
But 3 deaths so far this year and still the challenge attracts competitors and fans alike.
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Syd Puddefoot
1:10 Thu Jun 9
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TT organisers announced wrong rider as dead in crash.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/61733290
Goodness, whadda mistaka to maka.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
8:57 Wed Jun 8
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Until 1976 the IOM TT was the British round of the World Championship, so everyone raced there. Hailwood (14 wins), Agostini (10) and Phil Read (8) are TT legends.
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